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Post by igrim on Aug 15, 2007 22:39:19 GMT 1
Hello - first post here. I, for one, voted for Europe. Like darksnake, I'm curious about the fates of other dominant nations in the world aside from the States. The technology-reaching-Europe problem. I've got two possible solutions to offer right now: a) (Like during the 'real' WW2) the US forces landed in Europe armed to the teeth - that way the weapons and technology and secret of how to make powered armour and whatnot could reach Europe. (In BOS:Tactics BOS migrated using airships/dirigibles - either the storm could have led them really astray, or one or two groups of BOS soldiers used ships to cross the Great Atlantic - ideas for some BOS history in Europe might sprout from this story) b) Did you know that US and Soviet scientists pretty much syncronously had almost identical space shuttles made (a reference to 'real' history this one) when the very first one was in the works? What would have stopped either the US or Soviet (Czar, if we'd like that better - it's fiction after all) forces from conducting (am not sure, whether conducting is the right word here) espionage in preparation for the conflicts that led to the conclusive war that made the world the Fallouty(tm) wasteland as we know it from the previous games. If the Power Armour used in Europe used to come off the Russian (Soviet/Czar) workbenches then there's even no need to call it West Tek or Vault Tek, therefore facilitating the avoiding of any legal problems with Bethesda Softworks or whoever. Sorry for any grammar mistakes or mishaps with facts concerning the history parts, even though I don't talk about them very in-depth Hey - and cheers and good luck with this work, guys ! I, and I bet many others, appreciate it very much !
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Post by akuratnik on Aug 15, 2007 22:53:16 GMT 1
Hi, Europe is perfect, actually. OK, so we have the US and the Soviet Union as the two bringers of technology. What does this mean? Europe can be done Soviet-style! Instead of using American 50's Cold War art, we could use USSR's 50's Cold War art and that style in general. The world could also be really influenced by the USSR (say, the USSR tried to pull the old trick of invading other countries when war broke out, like they did with Poland during WWII) and we could do a sort of Clockwork Orange-type thing where people mix in some Russian words here and there. Obviously, putting in some other languages would be cool, too. I speak French, I definitely could do something with that. And obviously, we could make some great cultural jokes once again I don't think we can do Czar Russia, as I'm pretty sure some FO1/2 holodisks mentioned USSR by name. However, USSR works perfectly and it would be a nice twist to the general FO atmosphere. What do people say?
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Post by igrim on Aug 15, 2007 22:58:43 GMT 1
I find your idea intriguing, akuratnik. And as I'm from a post-Soviet country I know pretty well that 50's USSR promotional and propaganda art (posters, graffity, whatnot) is pretty much alike with the US equivalent. As the game is propably in English then yes - the Clockwork Orange idea about some Russian words popping in is a great idea. Most probably words to swear with, to refer to a comrade with or just teh regular titles. I bet an online English-Russian dictionary can provide those. EDIT: Oh. And some districts (many of them actually) in todays Russian cities look a lot like the ones we see in Fallout games. If the conquering Russians would keep up the good work after the war, then it would take perhaps no more than some three years to the whole place to look like Hub with Junktown as the ghetto and suburban area.
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Post by akuratnik on Aug 15, 2007 23:08:32 GMT 1
I actually am Russian. So you won't need the Russian dictionary if you ahve me :-D
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Post by ¬me on Aug 15, 2007 23:15:15 GMT 1
Hehe perfect! =)
Yes the decision is to set the storyline in Europe, though it should be hard to recognize where you are actually located, because of the immense destruction.
This will give us liberty of choice and would give whole new perspectives....
Our team is not really good in developing such stories and ideas, thats what we are missing! =)
So feel free to visit our wiki and start creating pages for story development there. It is much easier to use.
Also I invite you both to visit the IRC channel, at least you should find me there as the other two guys are on travel this and maybe next week.
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Post by akuratnik on Aug 15, 2007 23:17:23 GMT 1
What's the IRC channel? How do I get onto it (don't use IRC myself).
Also, I think the general plotline needs revamping. So where can I discuss this?
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Post by ¬me on Aug 15, 2007 23:20:30 GMT 1
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Post by slaughter on Aug 16, 2007 3:52:47 GMT 1
I voted for the US, because it's near of the Real Fallout Games location. Fallout is pretty much a satire of America. In fact, the fities ufanism is very ironic. And Iconic. I define Fallout mix things as diverse as a jab at the American's Way of Life, a "What If the Fities Never Ended" and a history about Human Nature.
I think the perfect location would be in the Pacific Northwest. Idaho, Washigton (the state), Oregon, West Montana and Soutwestern British Columbia. Maybe give a more coastal feel to it.
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Post by nology5890 on Aug 16, 2007 4:12:42 GMT 1
Wow, slaughter, you and me think alike. Pacific Northwest would be a very good direction to go (and there's enough landmass there to keep it out of California while keeping it Fallouty). Oh, and hey, guys, just thought I'd drop in again. It's cool to see that you got some front-page lovin' on NMA. I don't want to stay emotionally connected to the project, unless any of you want me, as I feel I may drag you down with inactivity. Of course, I'm willing to stay and contribute a bit for ideas, if no initial location or storyline has been nailed yet.
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Post by ¬me on Aug 16, 2007 6:24:48 GMT 1
Hey, both of you! We have started the discussion on the wiki, maybe you want to participate.
Actually the problem by having it set into the USA is that we could not use resources of the old Fallout games because they are under license. So it has to be something different though it is nearby the old games, that would suck imo. :/
Have a look at our discussion on the wiki!
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Post by drazhar on Aug 20, 2007 11:43:28 GMT 1
Hi, I could surely help with plots/story etc. placed in European reality. I'm from Poland, so I'm also close to the cold-war/socialist reality. Though I think (and I'll write that in wiki) that popping-in words from Russian is not enough ;-) Actually whatever yout think about it, Europe was, is, and will be multi-lingual - no matter who tries to "unite" it Oh, and the cold-war posters style IS different in USSR and US, so we have a challenge to reflect that So - yes to Europe (but still nothing against US or any other locations)
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Post by pinkmadcow on Aug 21, 2007 22:43:32 GMT 1
so europe... but what europe? i dont belive you can make it some abstract, mixed up land or something. my idea is that the game world be baltic sea area. sweden would be the least devastated, with law n order in the small towns. could be begining area. danemark would be the place where you can get a boat if you have the money n go to most of the coastal locations. also a land of pirates n one you can trade some useless stuff. im not quite sure bout germany... there are so many options. definitly there would be some powerfull heavy guns there n cars if there will be any in the game. poland... ah poland... this must be the worse place in the game! land of 100 glows. poland always been the main target in the nuclear plans of nato n ussr. this will be total wasteland, hard to cross without skills n equipment. also a raiders, outlaws hideout. this will be the only west-east land road. one more... im polish... east would be half russian occupated, half gang owned area. we could even have chernobyl on the very corner of this world. have no idea what to do with baltic republics... i think it will be a war zone betwean remainings of the soviet army and local resistance with other sides engaged. mabey some neo-teutonic order fanatics (they may be remainings of american intervention forces that dont waunt to realise usa does not exist any more or enclave related group) i think another interesting location would be borholm island. i heard that there is some secret underground military base under construction right now. ok thats all. what do you all think bout that location? its a real europe location but it still gives lot of freedom. its also complitly diffrent from the f1, f2 world-map becouse of baltic sea n polish wasteland wich make it hard to cross E-W.
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Post by slaughter on Sept 5, 2007 4:32:54 GMT 1
I would love if you guys also did around the URSS and doing a reverse Fallout. Instead of playing in a area full of American 1950's style, you could do a URSS style thing. Maybe we could even have some people that still believe in communism going around and such. Lots of Sickles and Hammers on old boards in the streets and governament propaganda and stuff. Since there are so many Polish Fallout Fans, I don't think it'll be hard to recreate that feeling.
EDIT: What about a game in China, maybe? I mean, we saw the USA - That one side of the coin. Time to see what remained of that big country called China, right? After all, they gave a big help in the matter of bombing the shit outta the entire world, right?
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Post by v3Nt0 on Sept 6, 2007 22:56:39 GMT 1
I would love if you guys also did around the URSS and doing a reverse Fallout. Instead of playing in a area full of American 1950's style, you could do a URSS style thing. Maybe we could even have some people that still believe in communism going around and such. Lots of Sickles and Hammers on old boards in the streets and governament propaganda and stuff. Since there are so many Polish Fallout Fans, I don't think it'll be hard to recreate that feeling. EDIT: What about a game in China, maybe? I mean, we saw the USA - That one side of the coin. Time to see what remained of that big country called China, right? After all, they gave a big help in the matter of bombing the shit outta the entire world, right? Hey slaughter, maybe you should have a look at our wiki, actually we are thinking in a similar direction You can find everything here: www.blackrain.fifengine.dePS: This forum is dead, we have a new one =)
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Post by GTRGHRT on Dec 23, 2008 7:17:31 GMT 1
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